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Citizen - The last name I used in the FOIA search last year is exactly how it was spelled on the Declaration/Petition/Oath paperwork. Nonetheless, I agree that the additional information MIGHT help Lee's Summit find more information, but I doubt it. I doubt it because, as I have said, I am under the...
by pogeybait
Wed May 09, 2007 6:01 pm
 
Forum: Naturalization
Topic: Where do I stand with these documents?
Replies: 22
Views: 5179

If you download the document as a .TIFF file it should be 4 pages long. The Oath document is the 2nd page. I can't get the PDF option to work on any computer I try. I guess my hope is that IF I can get a certified copy of all this, that it will be enough for Boston. It is hopeless trying to explain ...
by pogeybait
Wed May 09, 2007 4:07 pm
 
Forum: Naturalization
Topic: Where do I stand with these documents?
Replies: 22
Views: 5179

Hi again Mentor - Yes good points, but you are off one generation so it isn't as you describe. Great-Grandfather Alfredo (and wife) from Italy (naturalization papers thread) passes citizenship to grandmother Adele (missing her marriage papers) passes citizenship to my father (born Jan. 1948). Both o...
by pogeybait
Wed May 09, 2007 4:03 pm
 
Forum: Documents
Topic: Missing marriage certificate ... using another tact
Replies: 8
Views: 1584

Mentor - Please look at the second page of the document. It is entitled "Oath of Allegiance" just as you describe. It is signed and dated 11 Aug 1922. This oath and the accompanying "Order of Court" clearly states that he became a citizen on that date. The first page of the docum...
by pogeybait
Wed May 09, 2007 3:39 pm
 
Forum: Naturalization
Topic: Where do I stand with these documents?
Replies: 22
Views: 5179

We now know that the "wedding photo" was staged. My grandfather's brother was married and later that day my grandmother used the wedding gown to have a photo taken. I mentioned it because it shows intent. This is very sad to me because I'm sure my grandmother really wanted her own wedding ...
by pogeybait
Wed May 09, 2007 2:27 pm
 
Forum: Documents
Topic: Missing marriage certificate ... using another tact
Replies: 8
Views: 1584

Missing marriage certificate ... using another tact

Hi all, My grandparents lived as a married couple in the 1930s, however I have been unable to find their marriage certificate after many months of looking. Both are now deceased. My search has been complete and thorough. I have numerous lines of evidence to show they were married (obituaries, death ...
by pogeybait
Wed May 09, 2007 1:01 pm
 
Forum: Documents
Topic: Missing marriage certificate ... using another tact
Replies: 8
Views: 1584

No name changes that I can see. Alfredo started using Alfred as his name the moment he hit American soil. His vital records that I have (Italian birth certificate all the way through his death certificate use the same spelling of his last name.
by pogeybait
Wed May 09, 2007 12:23 pm
 
Forum: Naturalization
Topic: Where do I stand with these documents?
Replies: 22
Views: 5179

Mentor, Thank you for your reply. My document does have completed Oath. The document has a completed/signed Oath and Order of the court. It states that he became a citizen on a certain day and is signed by a referee of the court. To my eye, this seems like rock solid evidence that he was naturalized...
by pogeybait
Wed May 09, 2007 11:22 am
 
Forum: Naturalization
Topic: Where do I stand with these documents?
Replies: 22
Views: 5179

Hello all... A few things: 1. CitizenToBe is correct, that is the route I am applying. My father was born to my (Italian) grandmother in January 1948! I have known about this point for some time. 2. The Petition of Naturalization I have does contain a signed and witnessed "Oath of Naturalizatio...
by pogeybait
Wed May 09, 2007 8:18 am
 
Forum: Naturalization
Topic: Where do I stand with these documents?
Replies: 22
Views: 5179

Where do I stand with these documents?

Hi all, I am trying to build a jus sanquinis case for the Boston consulate. A little background... 1. Last year I sent a FOIA request to USCIS for naturalization records for my great-grandfather. I included death certificate and a copy of his entry in the 1920 census (the only census record I can fi...
by pogeybait
Tue May 08, 2007 10:04 pm
 
Forum: Naturalization
Topic: Where do I stand with these documents?
Replies: 22
Views: 5179

Importance of Marriage Certificates?

Hi all, I am in the process of putting together an application for JS citizenship. My claim goes back 3 generations but looks pretty bulletproof with respect to requirements, naturalization dates, etc. My problem is that I'm having a difficult time find a certain marriage license (specifically for m...
by pogeybait
Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:47 am
 
Forum: Documents
Topic: Importance of Marriage Certificates?
Replies: 0
Views: 477

Thanks for your reply. I'm confused about the documentation requirements with respect to naturalization. The Embassy and many websites list the required birth, marriage, and death certificates necessary to petition for Italian citizenship jure sanquinis but make no mention of USA naturalization reco...
by pogeybait
Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:50 pm
 
Forum: Qualifying
Topic: My story - I think I qualify - your take?
Replies: 3
Views: 744

My story - I think I qualify - your take?

Hello all, let me thank you for your comments up front. My paternal great-grandparents arrived on Ellis Island in 1910 from Formia, Italy. It is unclear if they were married in Italy or shortly after they arrived in the USA. Five years later my paternal grandmother was born (1915) in Ohio. She in tu...
by pogeybait
Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:16 pm
 
Forum: Qualifying
Topic: My story - I think I qualify - your take?
Replies: 3
Views: 744

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