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Detroit consulate

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:03 am
by MMonico
I will be going to the Detroit consulate next month to apply. Has anyone delt with them recently or heard anything about them? Im getting nervour, lol.

Thanks

Re: Detroit consulate

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:53 am
by jfrancia
I went to Detroit with my family on April 28th 2009. Ms Cerboni handled all of our paperwork.
We arrived at 10am and there was no one else waiting in the lobby area.

She was rather rushed and over whelmed when we came in. Of course for my family alone there was citizenship paperwork for 7 people applying including one through marriage and a cousin. We had already sent in copies previously of many of our documents to her so a file was already on hand with corrections that needed to be made. She had called a few weeks earlier to let us know of the discrepancies.

When talking to her just get straight to the point, she doesn't like to wait for a long explanation. or maybe there was too many of us, haha. Sorry, I if i am making you nervous.

Just today my dad called ms. Cerboni and she said that within a month all of our paperwork would be sent to our commune in Sicily. I think the processing time would have been faster if it were not for there being 7 of us, 2 name changes and a divorce. Also she was on vacation for a few weeks in July, So no one was working the citizenship department.

But in the end its all worth it. :D

anyways I hope this helps, let me know if there is anything that I can clarify.

Re: Detroit consulate

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:24 pm
by MMonico
Hi, Thank you for the reply.

So when you took your whole family did you have to have copies documents ( birth, death, etc..) for each person or could you use the one set of documents for everyone?

I talked with her yesterday but forgot to ask and didnt want to call again until it was really important.

I have an appt on Oct 7th 11am.

Re: Detroit consulate

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:59 pm
by lobezno
FYI: Her name is Giulia Cervone, not Cerboni.

Re: Detroit consulate

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:01 pm
by jfrancia
We only needed one document which qualified for everyone. For example we only needed one of my GF's birth cert which qualified for everyone.
And she did not ask for documents from the non-Italian side. But just in case, I did bring them.

Re: Detroit consulate

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:16 pm
by jfrancia
Thanks for clearing up that name, my dad always sent me emails with her name as Cerboni! lol.

Re: Detroit consulate

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:07 pm
by MMonico
lol yes Mrs Cervone.....

When I talked to her she told me that they would only go back 2 generations and so my father had to apply with me, bc I was going off of my GGF which would be 3 generations. Did they just recently change that??

Also I live in Kentucky so thats why I use the Detroit consulate but my father lives in Nebraska which is the Chicago consulate, does anyne know if they will let him come with me or will we have to do it at 2 different consulates. It would be best if we could do it together but I dont know how it would work unless we get him a Ky license or something. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

And how did you go about getting a file started bc I have all but one of the documents that I could send her if it helps makes the process a little easier.

Thanks

Re: Detroit consulate

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:10 pm
by lobezno
Regarding only going back two generations, that's BS and she knows it! She processed mine from my GGF, she might not like it and she might be misleading you, but jure sanguinis has no generational limit. She can't unilaterally decide only GF and down. Though some consulates have been enforcing the 1912 naturalization rule, I don't know if Detroit is now too.

Re: Detroit consulate

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:19 pm
by MMonico
Ok so do I call her on the BS? Should I send her an email stating that I am applying jure sanguinis, maybe she mis understood me on the phone. It would be better if I didnt have to bring my father and get his also bc he lives in a different state and it would be more trouble than I need. But whoever said this process was easy, lol.

Re: Detroit consulate

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:47 pm
by lobezno
I don't know, that's up to you. If you got nothing but time and patience, then wait and do it as she suggests. I wouldn't wait though. If ALL your ducks are in a row, and I mean ALL, then send her the package. Put the ball in her court. As long as you don't submit, she can say anything she wants, and save herself the work... once you've submitted, she must act.

Do you have all the docs you need without any discrepancies? (She only wanted direct ascendant info from me)

BTW: You can do it all by mail...

Re: Detroit consulate

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:01 pm
by MMonico
I should have everything next week. What is "the" package If I can do it by mail then I will do that as I need to do this ASAP. I asked her what forms I need to fill out and she said she had them all there, are there forms online I can print and fill out and send?

Re: Detroit consulate

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:35 pm
by lobezno
The package was all my docs and translations and app.

I see detroit doesn't have an app up online. I modified phili's app and put detroit on it.Or maybe it was houston's, don't remember.

Re: Detroit consulate

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:37 pm
by lobezno

Re: Detroit consulate

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:47 pm
by jfrancia
She asked us to send copies of all of the documents from the Italian side. No translations, no appostiles or application. just copies of the documents themselves. But maybe for you it could be different.

So, I put the copies all in an envelope from my GGF to me in chronological order. I also typed up a list of all the documents that were included. Then I also included an easy to follow family tree, just because there was so many of us applying. we just sent it to The consulates address and put attenzione: il dipartimento di cittadinanza on top.

Weeks later she called us and told us of the discrepancies that needed to be fixed before we could go on. Also she said we had to come to Detroit at least once, we had specifically asked her about just mailing the original certified copies but she said no.

about going back 3 generations, I think if you just sent copies of all the documents to her then she would process them. I would take the gamble and maybe she just doesn't want to much paperwork, so telling you no makes the workload a little less.

Re: Detroit consulate

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:03 pm
by jfrancia
Lobezno, have you received your citizenship yet? if so, how long did it take to receive the passport?

2 days after me and my family went to Detroit, I moved to Tokyo. And I really wish I had the Italian passport for much, much cheaper visas when I fly to china from here. Its kind of a pain for Americans to get a Visa to there.