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Postby MMonico » Wed May 28, 2008 3:11 pm

Im sure someone has asked this already but...... Does anyone know the process for getting residence in Italy and how long it may take????
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Postby Tiffany » Wed May 28, 2008 6:03 pm

What do you need residenza for? It really depends on what type of permesso di soggiorno you have and if you have a legal place to claim you live. Then it can take some time, depending on comune. I've heard 2 months, I've heard six months and I've heard less too.
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Postby MMonico » Wed May 28, 2008 6:33 pm

I am possibly going to be competing for Italy on the National Skeleton team. I need to be a resident to do that and will move there sometime this summer. So i may be living around Torino. Right now I am training with the USA National team in Park City, Utah.
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Postby Tiffany » Wed May 28, 2008 7:04 pm

Are you a citizen?

Edit// Ok, I see you're not. Can you play for the national team without being a citizen? Because the whole question of residence is moot if you cannot.
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Postby MMonico » Wed May 28, 2008 9:44 pm

Yes I can compete for italy if I am not a citizen as long as I have residence, I just cant compete in the Olympics for italy until I become a citizen, which I am working on.
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Postby Tiffany » Wed May 28, 2008 11:31 pm

Ok, I assume you are not an EU citizen, so you have two options.

First you can try applying for your citizenship in Italy. Assuming you qualify jure sanguinis, a recent dichiarazione allows jure sanguinis applicants to apply for residency immediately so that you may apply for and be granted a PdiS in attesa di cittadinanza.

If you do not qualify jure sanguinis or you do not want to go that route, you are going to need to obtain a visa to enter Italy and then a PdiS - permesso di soggiorno. This can be very difficult depending on your citrcumstances. You will need to firgure out which pdis you best qualify for. Some examples are a pdis per motivi familiari which you can use if you have close family in Italy. Others are for study and also for work. It is usually very difficult to obtain a PdiS for work. After you obtain your PdiS, you may apply for residency.

Obviously it is easiest is you go to Italy to apply jure sanguinis. Then you can hit two birds with one stone and fly through some red tape.
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Postby MMonico » Thu May 29, 2008 2:36 pm

I am doing the jure sanguinis route, I am in the process of getting all my documents in order. To do jure sanguinis in Italy I need all of the same documents that I would need in the US correct?
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Postby Tiffany » Thu May 29, 2008 5:00 pm

Yes, but while the naturalization certificate (if there is one) does not need to be with apostille in the US, it does need to be with apostille and translated for use in Italy. Some comune also tend not exactly know what to do with jure sanguinis applicants. For anecdotal experience, read these thread:
http://expattalk.com/groupee/forums/a/t ... 3360031694
http://expattalk.com/groupee/forums/a/t ... 3580078935
http://expattalk.com/groupee/forums/a/t ... 9190066345
http://expattalk.com/groupee/forums/a/t ... 5030079825
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Postby MMonico » Thu May 29, 2008 10:55 pm

Thanks Tiffany.
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